Later Vegeta puts up a decent fight against the real Granolah in SSB, as does Goku after he wakes up and rejoins the fight. When he fought clone Granolah, Goku did okay-ish in SSB before transforming because he thought trying to deal with Granolah's potential one-shot weak point attacks was too risky in a prolonged fight. this tracks with the way Omen works, where his ki increased but he didn't really hit much harder by transforming - makes it easier for him to enter the UI state and use it optimally. When Goku used UI against Granolah, he mentioned that increasing his ki - e.g. Whis mentions that the silver form isn't really something to be relied on and implies that it's just a shortcut toward better control over the power Goku already possesses, as opposed to a new level of power unto itself Silver does increase his ki, but the increase goes directly into helping him control UI instead of just making him faster or stronger I think there's actually a lot suggesting SSB and Silver will be basically the same, once Goku masters UI. The moderation team reserves the right to action posts at their own discretion. We will rarely allow this, so don't expect anything. Always ask us first before trying to promote your own content. Please be respectful and avoid being unnecessarily confrontational. Low-effort posts: these will be removed.Politics: this is not the place for it.Crossover VS topics: submit to r/whowouldwin.Memes and shitposts: submit to r/Ningen.Merch: submit to r/dbz on Mondays, or r/DBZCU any time.Fanart, fanfiction, tattoos, cosplay, video edits: submit these to r/dbz.Please submit community suggestions directly. All submissions must be about Dragon Ball or related works by Akira Toriyama. You may link images and videos of official material within a text post for the purposes of discussion, but all of the important points of the discussion should be in your own words.This is a subreddit for discussion only text posts are allowed.The initial manga, written and illustrated by Toriyama, was serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984 to 1995, with the 519 individual chapters collected into 42 tankōbon volumes by its publisher Shueisha. NEW TO DRAGON BALL? CLICK HERE! Welcome to /r/DragonBall!ĭragon Ball is a Japanese media franchise created by Akira Toriyama in 1984. DBS Manga Chapter 78 (Previous Chapters) | Join r/dbz for image posts and more❗